| Payment Methods | • Check (mailed/emailed) • Bank wire transfer |
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| Payout Percentages | 25% to 35% |
| Payment Minimum | $50 |
| Payment Frequency | Payout every 2 weeks. |
| Concept | Premium |
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| Number of Camgirls | Not public |
| Languages | English |
| Allowed to work on other sites | |
| Official Reps | VS_Miguel, VSJeff, Marc, VsCarlos |
| WeCamgirls Members | 240 |
| Incorrect or missing information? | Contact Tristan |
Flirt4free Earnings
Flirt4free has a range of payout percentages since they have models who work direct, models who work with studios etc. To get an impression:
- 1 - 4000 minutes: you get 25%,
- 4001 - 10000: 27,5%,
- 10001 and more: 30%.
About Flirt4free
Flirt4Free is an adult entertainment website specializied in video chat by male, female and transgender actors. As part of the Video Secrets network (VS MEDIA), with approximately 300 chat hosts online in various categories. The Flirt4Free focus lies on Premium, so performers can be taken from free chat to private chat. Flirt4Free is an award-winning (137 awards!) live cam site and has been in camming since 1996, which makes it the oldest site out there. The network offers more than 200 million unique visitors to their chat rooms every month. The site is very clear and user-friendly.
Flirt4Free Features
Flirt4Free is a Premium camsite with Freemium elements and has several features available for users and models. There is a Free chat that is called Open Room. The Open Room is to get to know the models and customers before you start with a private. Users that have not registered yet will be removed from the Open room after a period of time. However, you can send tips and virtual gifts in the free chat.
The next step after the Open room would be a private show or a Multi user show. In a Private chat the member and model are one-on-one. Customers can use the cam2cam and two-way audio options completely free of charge. The model sets the per minute rate.
You can also use the multi-users show option. This option functions in the same way as Private Chat, except that the rate per minute is usually lower, and other users can join at the same lower rate. When a model offers multi-user shows, the rate will appear in the top right corner of the feed, next to the private shows. Note that only the user who started the Multi-User show can use cam2cam. Any user who joins after the first can look and type, but cannot be seen by the model. Furthermore, users can also spy on current private shows at a very low rate.
As a member of FlirtFree you can also participate in a Party Chat. This one is a tip-based sex chat for multiple users. It is basically a Freemium set up. It costs nothing to enter, but the show ends if users don't tip, so tipping the artist is encouraged and rewarded. Party Chat is indicated by a pink banner above the model's face on the main page.
Since sending tips in the Open Room and in the Party Chat is possible, it is also possible to do Tip Controlled shows. This allows the user to to tip to activate a model's Lovenese or OhMiBod remote-controlled vibrating sex toy. Some private shows go even further. These shows are tagged Interactive, allowing the member to use a Feel Connect app to let the model control your interactive sex toy.
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Tristan
Tristan is a co-founder of this community. Interwebs nerd by day (and by night). Likes to watch sports and has gathered substantial knowledge about the webcam world, by visiting conferences and talking to (and drinking with) people from the industry.
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TLDR: Good support, everything else is the worst I have ever seen.
Firstly, the payout % is the lowest I have seen anywhere, for me it's 25%...plain and simple, thats shit.
A huge negative for me is that the F4F feels they should be the ones controlling what you are charging in pvt shows. I would much rather be taking less pvt shows at a higher price, than being forced into charging a lower price and having to be constantly in pvt. This really bothered me to the point where I am not sure I will return to F4F to even finish whats needed for me to get paid, the only person that should be dictating the models worth is the model.
(I have done pricing testing on other sites...just because the price is lower dosnt mean that you get more pvts, all that happens is you make less $ and the cheap guys that wont pay more than a couple cents a minute for a show are some of the worst guys to do shows for IMO). And I do mean forced, once you have some $ on the account, you want to hit payout so that you can get your money, so your options become let the site fuck you by forcing you into charging a stupidly low amount for shows or loose all the money you already made on the site.
Traffic on the site is pretty ok, I work in a neiche that F4F dosnt promote in anyway, my first few days on the site I had members tell me how refreshing it was to finally have someone that isnt a hairless 18y old kid or some bodybuilder, Since this isnt who they target in their marketing the traffic actually better than I would have expected. From my experience with the site when I was working in a studio (I didnt have the luxury of choosing what sites I worked on, if I did, i wouldn't have worked on F4F since the studio also took 50% meaning a credit to me was then worth 1cent) It takes a while for the premium members to start spending (couple of day's to a week). This could be down to the way I cam, I am pretty heavily focused on getting to know the members that come in my room, I would rather them become a regular than be constantly trying to get fresh members to go for shows because regulars from my experience will spend a lot more time in a paid chat then some random member that just stumbled across your room . This seems to be frowned upon by F4F though, as if you take the time to focus on building a member base rather than focusing on taking every 1 minute pvt show you can get they start to drop the amount your able to charge.
Having the amount the model is able to charge constantly changing also has other negative impacts. If today I am restricted to 40 credits a minute and then have a good day and can now charge 60 credits a minute, members will hold out for the lower priced shows. knowing if you dont make money at the higher rate you will be forced down.
Support is the one thing I liked about F4F, I always used the live chat and they were always quick to respond and answer any questions I had.
The software.... it's awful, it takes up way too much screen real estate for what it's displaying, it is only able to use software encoding, the max resolution is 720p and im not 100% sure because it dosnt say anywhere, but im pretty sure it's 720p at 30fps, so if you want to use hardware encoding you have to use a 3rd party encoder. It's a pain in the ass when the stream URL and Stream key change on every broadcast as it means you have to update the settings before every broadcast. It also seems completely stupid to have a model account across so many domains, when you looking for something as simple where to update your payment info, it should all just be on your model page, instead you have to navigate to a different sub domain to be able to update it. (this could be because support fucked up and didnt tell me that when I changed my cam name after leaving the studio they would have to close my account and open another and I think I now have a studio account because of this since my account shows that I have 2 models... again, not sure because the sites are such a mess in the way they are set up.)
So over all.... good support... shame there's nothing else good about it.
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Support sometimes doesn't care to answer your questions. Or answer them after 7-15 days. Nope, I'm not joking.
They can forget to pay to you. Me and my friend had to remind about payments few times.
27%! Also it may get even less if you make little money.
Tons of freeloaders. You'll need to earn a possibility to mute all those guys and lost it after 10 days vacation.
Software doesn't work good, a lot of technical issues is sad reality for last 2 years.
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For guys looking for good traffic I recommend this site
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I'm permanently banned from this site (after only one week, my first week in the cam biz) because I was asked by a customer if I was on other sites and I truthfully answered him. Support said to send an email to them stating that I re read the code of conduct an that I won't do it again and I should be reinstated within 48 hours. After 4 day of no response from them I contacted them to find out I was permanently banned. Their Loss. I went to Streamate and made 5 times as much money in the same time frame.
They have a lot of traffic ,but it's mostly freeloaders (after all the name says it all Flirt4free and that's what they expect) Even those willing to pay are in quick and done. the most I ever made on a private after Flirt takes their huge cut ( model only gets 27%) was $5.00
They have other ways to make money ( phone, chat) to boost your income, but even though your making a little more money the house is making a lot more money.
Also they record every private chat and they can sell them where ever they want even after you've left.
They won't allow you to place watermarked photos on their site because they have to have your permission to use or sell those photos which means they don't have control.
All in all it was a learning experience and a place to work the bugs out. I've learned to read everything before I accept it(it's to easy to scroll to the bottom and click I accept (and this one bit me in the ass)) It was always going to be a training site for me as their payout percentage is to low, but I've learned and moved on with the help of many wonderful people and now new friends on this site (thanks Heather)
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Had nothing but positive experiences and I was on a shitty dell laptop running 1080p most the time lol I've tried Chaturbate and Streammate and found F4F was best.
My favorite part is, they have easy ways to boost your powerscore if you attend the webinars (15-20min) where you speak with other camgirls and camguys on F4F and exchange ideas- or if you're more reclusive just watching through "F4F University" (takes a couple hours) you can boost your powerscore to the top page for an entire week.
There are a lot of tools on this site and I recommend going through every single one, otherwise the site will be useless to you and you will be starting with no "power-ups" or help. Similar to a video game, you need to pass the tutorial first or else you'll totally be running around missing so many opportunities and never get any rewards. I'm switching sites because this new site offered me 80% commission for exclusivity so I came on here to compare the two sites, but it's so odd seeing F4F rated so low when they pay so high. I'm not even one of the top girls (percentile rank 21%) and I still average $150-$200 hourly take home. Of course it was triple that during the pandemic, but that's as expected with any industry.
I was a model on them platform,i think i hit 12 years online badge,i earned few money,is simple to use the cam,even is only 25% percent from what we pay bills tax some outfits,some photoshoting sessions at a specific time,dealing with the most demanding and freeloading "boots" on chat,i can say that i give up...lately i had issue and i was rarely ON,but when i return i make sure i send individual message to my customers which come and spend some money,but i think is enough,last 3 years were a keen to work on that platform,almost all sites loose traffic,but not as F4F....they sometimes "boost" room for 15 mins,but mostly are boots and not real persons,even so,98% of the boosted traffic are guests and not members.
I sent sometimes emails about that is low traffic,and they answer all is normal any issue,but checking for days and good mins almost every top 10 cams,and "Model of the Week" most of them was bored,quied,had any tip or at least a demanding freeloader asking for genitals cock/pussy so i supposed wasnt only my room a issue was whole platform...and i think i wont waste my energy and focus on F4F anymore even so they changed rules and even u have "luck" to catch a place online,they disconect u now and wont let u come back...Thank you for all but i wanna shut down my account asap and do more on other less strickly platforms....I think that they follow the example of PrivateCamz,greedy and rigorous,and in awhile they will become only a phantom platform if no really dissapeared in history of adult internet zone.RIP F4F.
Worts pay outs 27% all free loaders, bios and paying customers only sent to top models. It’s impossible to make any money. When u finally do there’s a loophole some where to stop you from getting it!!!!
As a Independent Model I would not recommend working with this Company. The only Models that truly matter are the ones from South-America that work with Studios (and of course the few from Eastern-Europe that is also related to Studios), it will non-the-less be expected that VS Broadcasting will discredit these statements, however, go onto their websites and see who are the Models that win all of their advertised contests, see where they come from (to concluded, adding 1+1 gives you 2). If you think you will generate a good income for yourself, think again. Rather look for an alternative (sadly there is not many for an Independent Model). VS Broadcasting (Flirt4Free) prides themselves as the "Leader" in this specific industry. That statement is dependent in the context in which you view it. I would however would not recommend working for this Company nor will I encourage People to sign-up on this platform or any of VS Broadcasting's other platforms. The choice is yours.
I used to work on F4F but they close my account giving me the reason I'm not what they are looking for. I think you should let everyone work and let users decide. It is extremly stressful working on F4F because they are very strict and send room warnings for every small mistakes you do and for some reason I don't miss it.